but food is slightly brown but because people are poor and because people are poor and poverty is the reason people are poverty is the reason people are unable to access that food. unable to access that food. >> isn't it true that you can go >> isn't it true that you can go from being hungry to being obese from being hungry to being obese which seems sort of like some which seems sort of like some kind of disconnect and how can kind of disconnect and how can that possibly be? that possibly be? >> well, i agree with raj, that >> well, i agree with raj, that the central issue is poverty. the central issue is poverty. and ironically, hunger and and ironically, hunger and obesity are flip sides of the obesity are flip sides of the same mal same mal malnutrition coin. malnutrition coin. healther food often takes longer healther food often takes longer to prepare and to prepare and people in poverty people in poverty are traf traflg in public are traf traflg in public transportation and don't have a transportation and don't have a lot of money for that, some kind lot of money for that, some